Allah or Jesus?
by Rick Mathes
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements andwithout hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"
The ___expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung hishead in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the "Diversification" training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements andwithout hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"
The ___expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung hishead in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the "Diversification" training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.
posted by kevin at
12:03 PM
7 Comments:
lol, it's true.
Way to go, Kevin!
We infidels need to challenge more.
Wow! I can imagine doing this myself (ask my wife) but wondered if I'd have a chance. In the meantime, I'll have to vicariously enjoy this via your experience.
No dhimmitude for that prison guard! :)
Jason,
You can thank Rick Mathes, I just posted the story :)
It is interesting to note that none of the major schools of islam have renounced the religious doctrine of Dar-ul-Harb( house of strife for infidels) and Dar-ul Salam( house of peace for muslims). The Ismaelis and Ahmadiyyahs may be exceptions in that they have reformed some of the tenets of traditional islam and consider the bloody koranic injunctions metaphoric rather than literal and these 2 sects also eschew violence and forced conversion of unbelievers. They themselves however are under attack by the Sunnis and Shiites. However you look at it, Islam is a warrior cult with trappings of religion..making it exceedingly more dangerous than communism or nazism in that it can operate with impunity in free democratic societies under the guise of religion and free speech. There is no such thing as a moderate muslim..Islam itself is extreme. There are only practising and non-practising muslims.The non-practising muslim always runs the danger of morphing into a full blown devout, pious muslim who follows the koranic injunctions to the letter and practise jihad against his unss\uspecting . I refer you to www.faithfreedom.org.
Anjo da Verdade
Anjo,
Thanks for visiting, I've been to faithfreedom.org already, but your comment on Dar al-Harb is exactly right. A point the mainstream press loves to ignore.
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